Dat Engineer

Dang! As usual, I've been a real pantload.

Oh, for heaven's sake, I leave you people alone for two minutes and--
 

-- awww ...

Sounds like a plan, Stan.

I agree, and I'm forced to postpone as well. My connection sucks, I'm not an admin on the G+ page (TROOOOOEEEELSSSS!!!) and my girlfriend needs to use the computer for her work.
 
So let's wait till the beginning of next month, shall we? And let's see if we can lure Roses, LordKaT or someone else in there.

On a positive and on-topic note, the Kickstarter looks very professional, so I've no doubt they'll be able to pull this off. Not too au fait with the company and the people working on it, but I might check them out. Fantasy has never really been my bag, but it looks intriguing.
 
What I love most about these new games that are coming out/yet to be funded is that it shows that massive explosions and complicated FPS games are not what everyone wants to play. Plot, immersion, imagination and a bit of intellectual stimulation have their place too. While a classic adventure game may not give you hundreds of hours of replay value (although it very certainly CAN do) by putting in lots of "achievements" and "hidden missions", it can be far, far more satisfying.
 
I'll be interested to see how this develops.

@penguinfan - It's not even about whether the people playing it are "impressionable" or not. It's just absolutely sexist that every female character (bar some wonderful exceptions) appears to have her sexuality (cans) as her most predominant feature... all right... two features.
 
It's not just degrading to women - it's degrading to men. You're telling me and my gender that the only reason I will accept a woman is because she's fuckable. I find that deeply offensive.
 
As you can probably tell by my language and general demeanour, I couldn't give two cyber shits whether any game is "family friendly" or not. I would prefer it to just be "good". I'm not saying sex doesn't have its place, it's just supremely irritating that women continue to be defined primarily in this way. You can look at Joss Whedon's characters for how a fictional person can be incredibly beautiful and sexy, but defined by far, far more than how much of her cleavage is showing on the front cover of the box:
 
 

 
I'm sure the young lady in the cover art is a rather smart woman, who doesn't define herself through her relationships with men and is an independent, well-rounded individual. But - hey - I'm judging a book by its cover. And the cover says "jazz mag". Is there a particular reason why she has to be so scantily clad, other than the fact that you've defined the target audience as priapic 35-year olds living in their parent's basement who cry themselves to sleep wanking over their highschool year books?
 
If you don't think women in computer games can or should be rounded people, you're an idiot. If you have a problem with someone pointing out the inherent sexism of this, you can go eat a bag of dicks.
 
Oh, I'll leave with Joss. For whom I now have a raging boner (because he's a sexy, smart individual, not because he gets his norks out).
 

When it comes to giving impressionable young girls (and boys) ideas about women's power, the former sounds way worse than the latter, unless the point turns out to be that trying to gain power by being physically beautiful and going around mostly-naked in public is generally a bad idea. I wouldn't recommend it even for people who can pull it off. If I recall correctly, Princess Leia was temporarily under control of a bad guy when she wore the metal bikin+skirt; her normal competent (if grumpy) self didn't go around trying to get by on looks.
 
I take it all of you here are old enough to not be as impressionable any more, so go ahead and enjoy whatever fantasies you like. Enjoying Larry games doesn't brand you as a woman-hater either, I have examples to the contrary ;)
 
However, it would be nice if game devs cared a little more about providing "family-friendly" stories that weren't *just* for kids. Lots of kids are really bright while still being rather impressionable to cultural forces. I have been planning to give a copy of Hero U to my bright young niece to play with her dad, assuming it does turn out to be suitable (ha, how could I forget about buying games for my niece? I knew there was a better example than my cousins now). This game looked like a close miss, which is why I was frustrated enough to comment. Even if the current game is too advanced for the devs to be open to feedback, perhaps they would consider making their future games more friendly to girls by leaving out the stereotypical scantily-clad female character (who is reportedly not a main character)? Seemed worth a try.
 
I'm going to try to avoid saying any more in this thread -- don't want to turn someone else's thread about a project they are excited about into arguments about more general side topics (whether games people play as kids actually influence their cultural views, whether using looks to gain power is a net gain for the people who can get away with it let alone those who can't, whether the costume is really in line with the bikinis typical girls wear to the beach,etc etc). I am sorry if the sarcasm I used in an earlier comment put people on the defensive; that was really not my intention. Just a clumsy attempt to get people to think about making games more suitable for pre-teen and teenage girls with minor alterations that would not turn the whole thing into a sissy girly game.
 
P.S. my reference to Larry was taken backwards -- I was trying to say that it would be stupid to assert nearly-naked women in Larry games are unnecessary since that's the *main point*. A standard RPG-ish game can be just as good with sensible armor instead of chainmail bikinis; whereas Infamous Quests might make it a key part of the story. Now do you see the point?

Let's set February 23rd as a tentative date for the next hangout. Same time, approximately.
 
That way we have time to gauge special guests for interest. Having Roses or LordKaT participate would be great, particularly since LordKaT is a former Subchan poster.

Well, alright then. Now that that's settled...
 
...I expect to see every last person on these boards voting for SQ in every single category. *Especially* for Incinerations. Nothing against SQ2 VGA, but epic new Space Quest game beats out classic game remake every time. :D
 
Oh, and the two Pledge Quests, of course. ;) </kissing up to Jess>
 
On a side note, I notice that Vohaul Strikes Back isn't in here anywhere - I'm assuming it wasn't eligible, for some reason. Was it not made with AGS, or something? I confess to being ignorant of the criteria for getting on the nominee list...

Well, the nominations are now over, and all but one of the SQ/SQ-related games released in 2012 made it! :D

Hello, All.
 
Finally got around to browsing over here after getting involved in the KickStarter.
 
I'm a 39 year old Technology Architect for 1,000+ retail stores that you (or your wife) probably know. My wife & I live in sunny Southwest Florida. My first computer gaming memories go back to the Commodore ViC20 playing Scott Adams text adventure games. My first Sierra game was KQ1 (borrowed from a schoolmate) that I played on my Tandy 1000. The first Sierra game that I bought was Space Quest for that same Tandy... in fact, I've immortalized it. (http://www.liquidsilence.com/journal/2012/5/27/space-quest-floppy-disk-shadow-box.html)
 

Let's set February 23rd as a tentative date for the next hangout. Same time, approximately.
 
That way we have time to gauge special guests for interest. Having Roses or LordKaT participate would be great, particularly since LordKaT is a former Subchan poster.

Fair enough... Hope he's interested if we have a follow-up hangout :)

Sam: No, he wanted to join, but he was having problems of an undisclosed nature. He could watch, but was unable to join.

I think you could say that about a lot of old Subchan threads.

Your e-mail address.

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if PCJ just focused all his energy on curing diseases and stuff.

I think you could say that about a lot of old Subchan threads.

Sadly for everyone, I'm with Jess on this one. I have a Christmas party this Saturday (seriously), so I can't possibly attend. And I really want to be in on this one. Next Saturday would be kick-ass.

Well, the last one was extraordinarily early to accommodate Mr. Allen.

I'd play KQ5, but I only own the CD version. Which isn't worth much without sound.
 
Actually, it isn't worth much with sound either, but at least it's funnier.
 
Oh, and thank you for the info, Brandon. Seriously, is there really no such thing is abandonware? You just redefined my teenage years, man. Anyway, I'll be removing the link.

It'll be great to see someone play through KQ5. In my opinion, that's a game that's fun to watch someone play (e.g. ShadyParadox)... not nearly as fun to play it by one's self. I don't know if that's a schadenfreude thing.
 

Hey, that's a perfect fit. And yes, I know that's what she said.

I would probably go for just one game, but you all know I'm very much a gamehopper :P
 
I was originally thinking about some of the Sierra games I haven't played (there are lots), but given that the most logical choices have been taken by people that are more qualified to talk about them, I'm thinking about playing/disucssing LSL3 or 5. It's been a while since I played an LSL game and those two are my favourite series entries. Sophomoric as it often is, Sierra's "other" big comedy series definitely needs to be represented. And I have a horrible feeling either game will go very well with my usual Hangout antics...
 

Ooh, that game has some rooms that totally look like some in Space Quest 4.5!

Tentatively, I'm looking at Colonel's Bequest, King's Quest 6, or Conquests Of The Longbow.
 
Maybe a quick glimpse at The Incredible Machine...

Finally, I'm releasing the tracks I made for the SQ2 remake by Infamous Adventures. Along with some bonus tracks that weren't included in the game! I'm calling it Soundtrack A because it's not the entire soundtrack. There were two other very capable composers who also composed for the game. I did most of the space sections of the game. Some (not all) of James Mulvale's themes can be found on his Space Quest SoundCloud along with some unreleased SQ3 material he made. Isaac Lundgren's SQ2 score is available at his website for streaming.
 
Since I lost many of the original masters, many of these are lossy versions only (possibly compressed a couple times over, I can't remember). They are all MP3 and some of theme are still in their loopable states.
 
Space Quest II Remake - Soundtrack A (MediaFire) 47.7MB ZIP
 
25 Tracks in all. Here's the tracklist:
Introduction (Space Quest II Theme) Opening (Life Sucks...Again) Sweeping the Deck Xenon Orbital Station 4 Ambushed! Dark Lord of the Sloth (Vohaul's Theme) SQ Sports Vohaul's Asteroid (Theme A) Do What You Love, Love What You Do (Cleaning Bot) Holodeck Unwanted Affection (Alien Chase) Ape Kaptain Vohaul's Asteroid (Theme B) Monolith Burger Entrance Acid Pit Roger Shrunk Escape Countdown BONUS - Cleaning Bot (Droid Speaker Version) BONUS - A Greatly Exaggerated Tale of Adventure (SQ4 Metal Medley) BONUS - SQ3 Garbage Freighter UNUSED - Dark Tunnels of Labion UNUSED - Glowing Cave UNUSED - Glowing Cave (Danger) UNUSED - Ancient Statue UNUSED - Vohaul's Asteroid This post has been promoted to an article