Fronzel Neekburm

"Bean me up Scotty"

Au Nachorel - the nudist's choice.

The Ring of Fire "Hotter than Ortega"
 
Xenomorph Slice with Sticky cheese "rib bustingly good"
 
IT came from the kitchen-surprise platter "prepare for the experience of the lifetime"

Gort Giblets "Even we were surprised it had any"

Klaatu Clams "Depending on the vintage, they might be wooden"

Brundle Wings "For every flyboy"

Ceno Bites "There's no party without Ceno Bite"

 

It's almost 2 in the morning here and I was sound asleep when I felt a disturbance in the force, like 10000 SQ fans crying out in orgasmic joy at the same time.
 
I was too tired to read it all.
 
I skimmed over it up to the part where it said that Josh Mandel has joined up as a cameo writer.
 
Now I'm going to fap myself to sleep.
 
I'm sorry I ever doubted you!
 
$300 well invested!
 
I'm not worthy!
 
I'm not worthy!
 
 
 
Anybody got some tissues?

It's almost 2 in the morning here and I was sound asleep when I felt a disturbance in the force, like 10000 SQ fans crying out in orgasmic joy at the same time.
 
I was too tired to read it all.
 
I skimmed over it up to the part where it said that Josh Mandel has joined up as a cameo writer.
 
Now I'm going to fap myself to sleep.
 
I'm sorry I ever doubted you!
 
$300 well invested!
 
I'm not worthy!
 
I'm not worthy!
 
 
 
Anybody got some tissues?

Yeah, that ought to do it. :D
 
Wow, that was quite a hefty chunk of updatin'.

It's almost 2 in the morning here and I was sound asleep when I felt a disturbance in the force, like 10000 SQ fans crying out in orgasmic joy at the same time.
 
I was too tired to read it all.
 
I skimmed over it up to the part where it said that Josh Mandel has joined up as a cameo writer.
 
Now I'm going to fap myself to sleep.
 
I'm sorry I ever doubted you!
 
$300 well invested!
 
I'm not worthy!
 
I'm not worthy!
 
 
 
Anybody got some tissues?

Update just posted: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spaceventure/two-guys-spaceventure-by-the-creators-of-space-que/posts/1097304

I'd love to, but it's not up to me. Or Chris, for that matter. And I certainly respect the Guys' insistence on keeping surprises intact.
 
That said, I hope I can be a part of some more substantial updates in 2015 as the project gets closer to completion.

Personally I don't like Twitter. I find the converstions to be much harder to follow than even in KS page, which is shitty as well.  And I really don't follow Facebook that much either these days. I only check what my fiends and family members are up to, but anything else, I just don't can't muster that much interest anymore in FB.

Does Twitter work in German, where most words are longer than the character limit?

No. :P B)

Click me!
 
(Trigger warning: Paul Trowe)
 
No probs! Come to think of it, your addendum makes it look like I put a lot more effort into my swearing than I actually did. It will also greatly decrease the chances of my fellow posters developing carpal tunnel syndrome from excessive mousewheel scrolling.
 
But could I please have the size 36 font on "FUUUUUUUUUUUU..." back? :P

Soo, hidden track on "Strobe Light"?

Well, this is only months old. Reznor seems happy right now, so good for him. His belief in a supreme intelligence is none of my damn business, as long as he doesn't cover Jesus Is My Friend. It does seem more like a belief than being part of an organised religion to him, which I'm all for. Believe what you will, but don't force it upon anyone else.
 
You know, this upsets me less than him naming his sons Lazarus Echo and Balthazar. And people say North West is a stupid name. I wonder if he's going to try to out-Zappa Zappa and have a daughter named Apollo Landing Module Reznor.
 
Actually, now that I think of it, I'd love to hear Nine Inch Nails cover Jesus Is My Friend. That would be fucking hilarious.

Took the words right out of my mouth. And that's all I have to say on the matter.

Achievement unlocked!
 

Different strokes for sure, but I can definitely tell what you mean by "too Macbook-y". I also agree with most of your observations here, actually. I still recommend that you give "Hesitation Marks" a proper listen. The Reznor/Ross/Moulder sound is a part of it, but it's also got a more organic quality to it. Partly because Pino Palladino lends his bass chops to a lot of songs on it. Try "Various Methods of Escape" if you're looking for one good song off it. It sounds like an extension of "The Fragile".
 
I've read in an interview of Reznor that he was also aiming for "The Slip" to be very organic-sounding; every instrument on that album was output through speakers and mic'ed to try to give it a raw live sound. But in retrospect, the man himself thinks it sounds "weird". I like the album, but I'm inclined to agree that it's not their best. The way it was released speaks in favour of it, much like the ARG speaks in favour of "Year Zero" to me.
 
Also, you do know that The Downward Spiral was made with a then-state-of-the-art Mac, right?  :P I'm not sure how much of it was recorded digitally, but the story goes that everything went through that computer.
 

Yeah, Adrian Belew was briefly a member of the live band in 2013, but was ultimately let go because, according to himself, "it didn't work". I'm not sure if it happened acrimoniously, but 2013 was not the year of that guy. Imagine being booted from Nine Inch Nails and King Crimson within the span of one year! I think some guy crashed his car as well.
 
Speaking of Zappa, there's a funny little scene in "Closure" where the band is listening to, and singing along with, "Broken Hearts Are For Assholes" in the dressing room.

Sorry to have to censor the title but it can appear on the main page and I just don't think it's appropriate to see there.

Meh, at least you could‘ve given me a pity-like for linking to that awesome concert, you stingy fuck! :P
 
Maybe just once, I‘ll not argue your opinion. Me not getting into the Atticus Ross-era stuff is mostly due to personal preference. The new albums just sound too MacBook-y to me. But I was a massive fan from 2005 to 2008 and went to quite a few of the Year Zero-themed concerts. I still have those merch tees that I never wore, but at least they‘re taking me back to that fun time in my life. The Year Zero alternate reality game was awesome, as was Reznor leaking a bunch of his older stuff on the Bay. Year Zero remains a great piece of Bush-era angst and IMHO constitutes Reznor‘s most successful attempt at rejuvenating NIN. This was followed up with him falling out with his label and releasing Ghosts. I still really dug NIN during this experimental phase. Then came The Slip. I don‘t want to dog on this one, as it was released as a freebie. But it felt like a massive step backwards - the lyrics felt like someone trying to write NIN stuff, but not quite getting it right, while the music delved further down into MacBook territory (this musical style was perfectly suited for Year Zero, but I wouldn‘t want "The Downward Spiral" to sound like this). And I have to admit that I didn‘t pay too much attention to anything that came afterwards. The remaster of PHM was a massive letdown, I listened to the 30 second samples of Hesitation Marks on amazon and figured this wasn‘t for me.
 
But in this particular case, I‘d still say that diff‘rent strokes applies.
 
PS: To make the connection to the Zappa thread: Didn‘t Reznor (try to) team up with Adrian Belew on one of the more recent tours? I seem to remember that they had planned that Belew joins their live line-up, but he couldn‘t for some reason...

Considering you're Fronzel and I'm Frede, this'll come as no surprise: I disagree.
 
Nine Inch Nails have been pretty awesome post-"Year Zero". "The Slip" as an album was so-so, but the tour following it was absolutely awesome. And I sincerely think "Hesitation Marks" is the finest Nine Inch Nails album since "The Fragile". I love "Year Zero", but the Alternate Reality Game that accompanied it was a major part of the experience for me. I don't think the album would've had the same impact, had it not been for the websites sent back through time. In fact, I was on the Exhibit 24 website back when that was still online. I even have some fan-made dog tags lying around with my online nick and number on 'em, stating that I am "At large". It was a truly fascinating time to be a NIN fan.
 
The 2013-2014 tours were also awesome. 'Nuff said; any tour that has Pino Palladino as part of the line-up is bound to be good. The dude replaced John Entwistle in The Who, so he knows his shit. I like how NIN post the "Wave Goodbye" tour has focused on musicianship rather than pure aggression. The "Self-Destruct" tour cycle will always be fantastic, and it'll never, ever be topped. But I'm happy Reznor has continued to rejuvenate the NIN live experience. It'd be pretty embarassing watching a balding, married dude pushing 60 breaking his keyboard while whispering his way through "Happiness In Slavery".
 
Ultimately, I love the NIN of 1994 and I love the NIN of today. But they're different entities. I wish I was old enough to have experienced the classic constellation in concert, but that obviously wasn't meant to be. But, having attended gigs on the 2009 and 2014 European tours, I can safely say that Trent Reznor is still a musical force to be reckoned with.

Since we seem to have a surprising amount of fans here - and by that, I mean more than myself - I thought a Frank Zappa thread would be interesting. Perhaps more so to the uninitiated (I'm particularly looking at Troels here).
 
Right now, I'm loving the hell out of circa 1973/1974 Zappa. He was always a multi-faceted human and musician, starting his career ostensibly playing hippie music (ironically, he was a conservative even back then) with satiric undertones and continuing to explore different genres until he untimely departed this plane as, perhaps, the most unique electronic/classical composer the world has ever seen. But there was one era of Zappa that just plain brought the funk, and that was 1973-1974. The bands he had around that time, consisting of a very eclectic combination of black and white musicians were all absolutely fantastic and may well represent Zappa at his most accessible.
 
Centered around drummer Chester Thompson (of Weather Report and Genesis fame), keyboardist George Duke, monster percussionist Ruth Underwood, saxophonist/vocalist Napoleon Murphy Brock and brothers Tom and Bruce Fowler on bass and trombone, respectively, the iterations of Zappa's band at that time were able to take the most complex pieces of music (Zappa was heavily into Stravinsky and Edgar Varèse) and make them swing like you wouldn't believe. The Zappa studio albums from around that time don't even begin to bring justice to the awesomeness that was this band of - as Miles Davis tended to call musicians he found exceptionally talented - motherfuckers.
 
Cases in point:
 

 
This band was so tight that this take on "Inca Roads" appears, in a remixed and overdubbed state on the studio album "One Size Fits All". With the guitar solo from a 1974 gig in Helsinki dubbed in for good measure.
 

 
The solo in this particular version of "Montana" is sick. This one doesn't feature Thompson on drums, but Ralph Humphrey, the drummer here, and Tom Fowler lay down one hell of a groove for Zappa to jam over.
 

 
I hadn't watched this one before posting it, so right now, I'm cracking up at vintage Disney characters playing Zappa.
 
People seem to usually recommend stuff like "Sheik Yerbouti" or "We're Only In It For the Money" to aspiring Zappaphiles. While being a huge fan of both albums, anyone interested in getting acquinted with Zappa should seriously check out his live work from around this time. He would come pretty close, but he would never quite reach the same levels of greatness again.
 
So now that I have wrapped up the rant I promised in another thread, feel free to discuss the genius that was Frank Zappa  :)

As I've said before, the only reason I'm not too worried is because I spend quite a bit of time on these forums, speak regularly with people like Troels, and have enough fandom to let it ride. I'm not typical. I can totally understand why the vocal punters are behaving as they are. Whether through design or accident, it appears as if very little is happening. Even if it is.
 
Combine that with a number of other high-profile KS/Early Access snafus, and people start to behave like dicks. Some of the dickishness might well be justified.
 
Where I agree with Brandon, though, is that the damage is done and nothing is to be gained by going on a charm offensive. That would probably be counter-productive. By the same time, I'm not sure it can be completely ignored. If nothing else, we are due another official update, and we haven't had one. That, no doubt, could cause some nerves.

Yeah, I wouldn't do that in a real update. Just mentioned it above because it's relevant to what we're working with now and not covered by an NDA on my end ;)

I know you're joking Fronzel, but I have no anger towards RPGCodex for that emoticon. It's the most entertaining game site on the web.

The lead designer has popped up on Facebook and has been answering questions. He can't say much, and we won't know things for sure until we see some actual gameplay ourselves, but he has confirmed that it is "certainly not a platformer or action-oriented," is episodic, is open-world, is able to interact with the environment, "not point & click in the traditional sense but is an updated take on the formula (more details to come)". And we can expect puzzles, exploration (those two alone satisfy me), and a humour-filled wondrous story. He also said we shouldn't be concerned about linear gameplay and expects us to be pleased in that department. He says the trailer was cut more action-oriented because "adventure game mechanics are hard to show in a trailer without making the trailer seem slow for a mass audience." He also says he hopes he can go into more detail about why soon. This doesn't and has never bothered me personally, though. He goes on to say that if this game is successful, it could show the industry that people still want games where charm, storytelling, and using your mind are at the forefront. That's a winning approach in my book. Only time will tell for sure, though.
 
He also wants to do a straight up AMA in Jan.