Johnathon

You know, Troels, I was honestly pondering with the idea of having you appear as a cameo in my fangame, just because I thought up a perfect way to implement you, which would serve as a three-fold purpose: (1) to poke fun at my inabilities (as a designer) to rectify the debates that exist between things like the number of planets in the system of Earnon or the distance that Kerona is from the dying star... (2) to further depict yourself as the SQ Historian (Xenon, being a real metropolis type area, obviously has museums and large libraries and therefore, historians...) and (3) to have you make my fangame more popular or interesting by your short-lived appearance in it (not that it will need you to be interesting. I just want it interesting as possible). It's the way you put yourself out there by making all those funny videos of yours. I have a good sense of a character for you in the game, and I'm certain others would find you as great comic relief. You wouldn't be up to that, would you...? EDIT: I should clarify that you wouldn't be a fan of Roger in the adventure. Rather, to him you'd be kind of... well... you know... indifferent.

I do believe/agree having real-time syncing between all the four sites (probably with this one serving as the main "node," b/c it has been around so long) would help. Perhaps that's too easy for me to say, b/c I don't know what labor that entails; but it seems it was done quite promptly between this place and twitter, and facebook, and the virtual broomcloset. It goes without saying that obviously non-backers wouldn't have access to the rewards site, but perhaps seeing more of it synced across the remaining websites would draw more attention.

I've gotta say, I've browsed over some of the photos in this thread, and this is some pretty intriguing stuff! No - AWESOME! Very impressive work, and while I have never played minecraft before (and still don't have the time and fear trying it b/c I've seen others addicted to it), if I ever do start, it'll be because of this SQ spin off. :y:

I see your points regarding these. I'd like to clarify my choice of title when I decided to make this thread. It was worded kind of cutsie-wootsie front line newspaper, I suppose. I probably should have thought about that a little more before posting it. I do think it's obvious enough, however, that my use of the word "hiding" wasn't/isn't intended to insinuate the bulk of the backer's as being deliberately anti-social. I also don't want you, here, getting the impression that I'm trying to insinuate that you are trying to suggest that I had intended such, solely b/c of my explaining it here. In fact, the only reason I feel like clarifying it is because, since the post was started, the degree of backers that have suddenly appeared here to state their case and reasons for silence. In other words, and in greater explanation, the backers are not judged by the extent of their postings and as I've said before it's none of my business what they want to do with their free time. The reason I started this thread was because I was curious: for, given 4 months of time, even with a little activity as of late, I found it odd that only about 20 people total had posted in those 4 months. You'd have thought a bunch more would have at least posted at the initial topics/concept arts when the site first became active. I now attribute that prior believed-to-be phenomenon to the fact that there was a serious issue with the emailing system, apparently. If I had to give my take, I'd say things are just taking longer than the 'Guys wish to deliver/organize all this. For that I cannot provide any excuse, explanation or wise opinion b/c it is not my arena. It's just when I read people suggesting negative things about people they don't even know (like elbowing and trying to steal the show) that I get a little pissed. That's one of my personal pet peeves. There's a big difference between me expecting everybody to admire and be as enthusiastic as I am - the people running this project and the project itself - and me expecting others to maintain my idea of a baseline level of courtesy prior to drawing negative assumptions (the two are as far apart as it gets). But all of your points are valid ones. I'm sure it'll all be delivered; maybe just not as quickly as we'd expected. We all do, of course, have every right and freedom to criticize and make suggestions regarding any aspect of the project and it's delivery. That's all part of the business/game. Peace.

I was just in an especially humorous mood. Sarcasm is one of my most common outlets when life is too serious. :P Seriously speaking though, if there ever was a "standard" to be held to, as far as all the chapters go, I'd say SQ3 is more-or-less it.

A fair interpretation, though I didn't see Ace's being employed/summoned by the Guys in the prototype as automatic verification that such a scenario would play out in SpaceVenture. Of course, I certainly have no problem if he does wind up being their little chore boy, and I agree it would be quite amusing. :) Oh really? You mean always victims as in the one time they appeared as characters in their games (SQ3), and always despondent as in the one time they behaved such in their games (SQ3; whereas, appearing in SQ1VGA they were smartass Madden-pun commentators, in SQ4 they were smarmy-cool "see-you-on-the-chronostream" game exit hosts, and in the remaining games they did not appear), and always when they get rescued as in the one time they got rescued (SQ3)...? So, in other words, you mean always in SQ3 as the "prime" example out of the "only" applicable example of all the chapters? :D I doubt there's any question as to which chapter is favorite of the SQ Historian (same as mine, SQ3), but I'd always had the impression you were a self-employed freelancing historian (you know, kind of like a hobby). Who you working for these days, Troels? Why you gotta smudge up the "was" and misrep the "is"? Yo, I'm talk'n to you. (And I'm still jealous of your awesome personalized alien caricature (folds arms and pouts)) ;)

I'm imagining them somehow needing to be rescued by Ace (that's perhaps the most obvious possibility). I like your take on it though. Perhaps they can be kidnapped while he's working on their toilet? :D

And there's many more than one way to "give reasons" or otherwise express yourself: it's called having "tact," something I myself never used to possess, and which unfortunately the average person still doesn't. Apology accepted.

[emphasis added]. (Sighs...) And now I feel like we're going backwards, as we are digging into two-posts-ago. As I've said, and continue to say here. I find certain worries/language-use (as quoted and emphasized above) a bit much. I cannot argue with your pointing out that Chris's extent of criticism or being questioned by a lot of fans may be a sign of, "well, who the hell IS he, then, after all???" I suppose your logic is sound there: minus that you don't really know if that "many" is the majority. If you go by what my sense was of it, I said 20%, which is actually quite small (though too many for one person to handle week to week). I don't suppose then, that we have convinced each other of anything. I will just say I'm disappointed, and that because I happen to have quite a different impression of him than do you and those other "20%," I will continue to try and clean up after the thoughtless/paranoid flame-throwing, when I happen to feel like it or that it may convince "somebody" to think twice. I now excuse myself from this topic for now. When I come back, I will not be responding to this anymore, but rather to what it was started for. ... "elbow" ..."take over"...? I mean, really? From what basis does such a feeling spring...? I tried to keep it pleasant in light of my first gut-reactions to THAT, but now that you're really pressing my hand open, here's my cards: Stop worrying so much.

That's all fair enough my friend, I don't see your posts as especially negative or critical. You even have some valid points. If I hadn't been following more of the podcasts and have come to know more about Chris in the last several months - who knows - I may have had your same first impression. So, don't feel like I was trying to scold. I didn't mean to have too much of a scolding tone. It's just Chris does read this forum, you know, and he hears "this Chris guy, that Chris guy" from at least 20% of 10,000 people, lol. You're not negative or out of line. I was just trying to fill you in. And I agree with you on the website issues: both as far as layout and in the fact they are multiples. I can't say that I find them particularly unnattractive - just below par, and a bit disorganized, as you say.

:y: (slaps forehead) Poor Chris. 😛 Not that your impressions and opinions aren't valued, but I just have to chuckle now, not only at what you're saying, but at how you're saying it. He must hear (read) his name preceded by the word "that" and followed by the word "guy" about a hundred times a week. I just feel bad for him. Sincerely though, I don't mean to give you a hard time. I just find this amusing; but I must also tell you. Chris is a great Space Quest fan. I know it's not the public's job to know who EVERYONE in Hollywood/Gaming is (the technicians, and the cameramen/women, etc.), but contrary to common misconception, Chris is quite a seasoned professional in the industry. He's done plenty of work for Disney aside from the Two Guys. But, the part you'll care about more. His fanship for the series goes way back. He even visited the Oakhurst location back when he was 16. Furthermore, as others have pointed out before me, The Two Guys are accustomed to working their magic on their own terms and behind the scenes, without the pressure of 10,000 Ken William proxies egging them on or bugging them with questions; hence, I presume, Chris as the in-between public relations specialist. It's a different age and time. The Two Guys are adjusting to working for a mass of kickstarter funders. As Scott says, he's a stand up guy, and I'm certain they know what they're doing by having him hired on. If I may say so, people can tend to worry too much and be too critical before having all the facts/sense of things as they are. Imagine yourself, as a sculptor, for example, knowing your tools and knowing your assistants and employees, and having much experience, but also needing that special time to yourself, to work your magic, without distraction, and constantly having your boss or your clients hovering over your shoulder and pestering you as to why they're paying another $10 per hour for a laborer, or why the thing isn't done yet, or why you're using this tool instead of that. The way I see it, we know what Scott and Mark are good at, and we either have faith enough in that and take things on their terms... or we don't. Feel me?

Hehe... :lol: Well... I suppose my launching of this topic/question was not as redundant as I'd earlier predicted. I hadn't realized there was a common malfunction in the kickstarter's emailing system.

Heck, a time machine would be great just for rewinding every day you spend working on a fan game, so you would have all the time you need, and would never even need to announce a release date (of course, you'd probably have to carry the source code and resources with you inside the time machine, but that shouldn't be too difficult, no?) (sighs...) If only we all had time machines.

All good points; though, like S_D mentioned, they did pay for that access. I've no place to tell people what to do with their stuff, but my curiosity is roused by this. The amount of enthusiasm flaming the kickstarter onward was incredible (I mean, yeah, it was a close call, but we still got over 10 thousand people). It's just really surprising to me. I'm busy too, of course: wedding planning, college, work, SQ:OEOE, and the past two weeks recovering from severe dyspnoea triggered by what no expert has been able to explain yet (apparently an odd virus or side-effects due to interaction of antibiotics and corticosteroids) - anyways, yeah! TMI, lol. I still can't stop myself from logging in at least once a week and seeing what new media/visual/sketch/what-have-you is posted on SVRewards.com. It's really hard to believe, that out of 10,000 people, only a small handful, about 20, if that, have posted in these months. That's really surprising, I say, however you slice it. Perhaps it's that many are logging in and just not commenting? After all, "we" have no way of tracking/observing that, do we. Or, like BlackThorne mentioned, perhaps most people just want to play something. I suppose that is nothing to be disappointed by :D But wow...

Lol, taking place in hell? That anything like the cancelled "Royal Quest"? :y:

If they ever have a convention down here, in Charleston, I'd be willing to drive the 4 hours, if I could find the time out of my schedule. :wub:

Not certain if you guys interpreted my question as I meant it; but now that you mention, this place does seem a little dead too. What I was actually referring to was how dead SVRewards is. There may be 20 people posting there, and it's been up for months. I mean, I didn't count, but that's how it seems.

Okay, so I couldn't resist posting this up anymore. Sorry if it's been mentioned, I've been a bit busy and haven't been able to follow the activity here on a consistent basis. So, anyways, I'm glad we had over 10,000 contributors to ensure the SpaceVenture would happen, and I recall that one couldn't refresh the screen without the comments page being overfilled to the point that following it coherently was impossible. ...and I'm thinking about all that, and thinking about the fact that the Rewards site has been up for months now, and I'm wondering, "where is everybody?" Are they all just sitting back and watching? It seems the handful of people we have actively posting at the place is quite small. This is the first time I've ever helped fund a project like this, or been a member of a private rewards community, so I'm not certain if this phenomena is a common occurrence after fundraisers are successfully backed. Not a problem, I suppose, but I'm just so curious as to why.

Just got a message from him. Apparently he's working on a Disney project. Pretty cool! :) Shame it didn't work out that he could go with GFA though.

Wow! I mean, just WOW!! I'm going to feel so happy for the lucky soul who closes in on this position. This is like watching the opportunity of your life pass you by via a matter of philosophical seconds. (Am I being too dramatic? I'm sorry, I've been very passionate about the creative arts, and game design for quite a long time now!) Unfortunately, I am a late start, and have just begun working my way toward the abilities required. I attained my first experience with blender last fall, via my Digital Production Arts minor; as for photoshop, while I own it, I have only begun to learn it this last spring. Just not the right time for me. Besides, I've got my own project, a wedding, and full time school. Allow me to express my deepest regrets and my greatest excitement for whoever this position goes to. But, just seeing the Two Guys bounce back and just to be a backer of this cause, and a part of this action in any sense (and to anticipate the coming of this game), has in itself been like a lost dream come true. I never imagined I would see these things playing out; nor that I would get inside, behind the scenes access to cool dev diaries and all the other goodies. I have nothing but excitement and satisfaction regarding the things that have happened already, and that will happen, minus this one personal letdown/tempation of mine right here. I can, of course, live without it. But, hey... where the heck is Chris Ushko???!!! This should go to HIM! Go track down Chris Ushko. :) He's quite ready for this, I believe (have any of you seen his "Wasabi Guy" demonstraive video? Furthermore, he's more than proven his love for the Space Quest series.

Oh, but Ali, that is not at all to what I was referring: it was what came after, which I have "starred out" in my post above, which I found to be overboard and bothersome. An occasional 'cute' adult reference here and there, or a bit of earthy profanity sprinkled about, for the sake of seasoning, does not bother me so much. It is just, that term that I "starred out," which I will not repeat nor explain here, is so disgusting and offensive to me, that I find it worse, image-wise, than the idea of Forcing Unidentified Carnal Knowledge. When I looked up that word, and discovered what it meant, I wondered, in shock, of how anyone could have found that to be worth putting into a game. Sure, it may be something a tramp would really say, and I was clicking the Mouth icon on the tramp; but still, I must ask, how far must a designer go to get the point across? It is situations like these where I feel the "Alfred Hitchcock" approach would fare much better off. For example, to illustrate, I find the below... Quite amusing, cute, and much more acceptable. It is comedic for adults, and goes over a child's head; while... Well, the reference which we're discussing, with respect to the lady outside the Dewbeam Inn: I don't find it healthy psychologically for any adult to know what it means. Some things we just stay away from, because they're too much. At least for myself, I'll admit, that was.

Nah, that wouldn't be me. Of course, only because you bring it up, I myself wouldn't be dropping so many F-Bombs; but I understand you have a primarily mature/adult audience. Sometimes the more dramatic the expletive used, if it fits with the ongoing conflict, the funnier and more infectious it comes across. I can't lie and say I'm not a fan of the Die Hard series, and you're a good few years older than me, so I won't scold you about it. ;) I understood that one well before I could even drink beer. Where my locale had been, Corona was sold quite much in the stores, and the hispanic aliens singing about it from the RW Comic Issue #1 made it even more obvious to me. I don't suppose they sold Corona where you grew up. Can't you just feel the love in here now, people!

Try clicking on the prostitute-looking woman (in the red) who is randomly found outside the hotel (with the mouth icon, if I recall correctly), in Space Quest 6 (or... don't!) In other news... I guess I should confess that it wasn't until reading topic that I realized Ulence Flats was an inuendo. Haha! I'm almost 27 years old. Thanks for saving me from my air-headed (or... isn't it lack thereof?) innocence, Troels! :P

Honestly, I find SQ overall to be good clean fun (there are areas where I feel SQ4 and SQ6 overdo the crudity/impurity, but fortunately those parts are few and far between, in respect to the bulk of the adventure). Which reminds me: "Scrump off, you little *****monger!!!" (yeah, that'd be the first one I'd have removed, if it were up to me, I didn't understand it for years, and finally the curiosity drove me nuts to the point where I googled it. Once again, wish I hadn't) :blush:

Space Quest 6 (when clicking on screw in Stellar's colon): 'This is a screw that even Stellar doesn't remember.' Honestly, I could've gone on just as happy without understanding it. :blink: